I return, finally, to my exchange with humanist Jon Lindgren, emeritus professor of economics for NDSU and former mayor of Fargo. The delay was entirely my own fault. These last several months have been hectic, so finding the time to put together a short essay even proved difficult. Nonetheless, I have done so. Here we each give our take on the matter. I argue, of course, for a relationship between morality and faith and Jon Lindgren argues rather for a consensus approach, providing an ecological example.